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  • mhtanim
    02-10 08:51 PM
    I got the same email/soft lud today. My application starts WAC as well, got transferred to NSC.





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  • jfredr
    08-22 10:52 AM
    I don't think he can.

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    Reason he is member of IV





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  • realizeit
    02-11 11:53 PM
    Mr MPADAPA,

    I know you have spent some time analyzing the whole stuff and came with your conclusions. At the end, if someone says that the crux of your conclusions are wrong, for an emotional person, it would be tough to take. A rational person would take it lightly and think before responding. In your immediate previous reply, you just cherry picked a quote from my previous reply and put that as my interpretation. Please do not put words into my mouth. My reply has been pasted below in its entirety.

    You have campared the paragraph with NumbersUSA argument etc. Dear friend, my argument was exactly opposite to that paragraph. I think, you didn't get the meaning of the paragraph itself. My paragraph contained phrases like "If your argument is correct..", ". If the unused can be given to ..". etc, which makes the argument exactly opposite to what mentioned there. So, that means I believe exactly opposite to those arguments.

    I acknowledge that you have every right to interpret the law in whichever way you want. My point is that, it really doesn't matter to all of the folks who applied in EB2 and waiting for GC. The thing that really matters is the way in which USCIS acts this year. They can act in whatever way they want. This year, if they say, there won't be any family visa wastage, we will get nothing. Contrary to that, if they see that by the end of the year there is a chance for 15K family vis wastage, they may allocate that to employment category.

    To all EB2 folks out there: No need to really feel bad or happy about the analysis of Mr. MPADAPA.

    My general advice to anyone who put forward an argument for propaganda and a campaign is: Don't massage the facts, don't twist the facts, don't over analyze, don't under analyze, Also don't say that your interpretation is the final verdict. Because, even if we can analyze all the immigration related laws in the whole Federal register, we may not be able to come to a final conclusion....!! Why? Because you don't have a clue what is in the field manual and internal memos of the USCIS and you don't know how they procedurely allocate spill over etc on each year. As long as USCIS and DOS can use the terms "In Anticipation..", "As per our expectations..", no one will be able to hold them accountable for the visa wastage.

    MPADAPA..you may continue your argument/discussions, if you think this is a moot point. But I don't believe so.

    If you can prove your initial basic argument with complete facts and details, I will openly declare, I am wrong! Your original argument was "Since the family category used up all Visa numbers in 2008, in 2009 EB2 cannot expect any spill over from Family category and hence we need to expect slow movement....".

    Instead of proving the above, you may cherry pick my statements and continue to beat about the bush. I am giving up here my friend.

    Good luck :)




    realizeit, you just didn't get the unused visa calculation.
    By the way your interpretation quoted below is exactly what numbersUSA used to claim that there is no visa available for recapture. And they used that argument to shoot down our recapture bill.

    Knowing that PD's aren't going to move forward drastically, we need to start working towards some thing drastic like a bill/amendment. Or we can sit and mull over it and wait until the second week of Aug (when Sep bulletin is announced) to show our frustration.

    My complete earlier reply

    Still I disagree my friend. I know, law is the law! What I am disagreeing is your interpretation and conclusion.

    In reality, towards the end of the Fiscal year, if USCIS/State Dept finds that visas will go unused in one category, they can use the spill over rules. So, if there are some potential unused visas in Family category they can add it to Employment category and vice versa. This will all work in the same year. It will not work or get transferred to a following year. In your initial argument, you said, because all the family visas for 2008 are completely used, we won't get anything from that category as spill over during this year (2009).

    If your argument is correct, there won't be any need for recapture laws that we all are working for. If the unused can be given to the next year, no visa will get wasted. USCIS/DOS can just give the unused in family category to Employment category in the following year and vice versa.

    In reality that is not the case. Visa number in one year will not flow to the next. So, your original argument is completely wrong. If there is nothing left in family category for the year 2008, that has nothing to do with the expected spill over to Employment category from family category in 2009.

    In my opinion, law is complex and snippets of the law from here and there won't will not clarify anything. So, if anyone would like to be optimistic, stay there, to be pessimistic, stay there - this whole argument by MPADAPA is not enough to change your state of mind :) Just my observation!





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  • nag2007
    02-08 04:06 PM
    I dont see any light at the tunnel. PDs will not move until they allow 485 filing even PD is not current.



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  • imh1b
    11-03 09:00 AM
    Today I was talking to IO in Texas service center, during discussion I told her that India dates might retrogress.. can you please expedite my case. For that she replied that " that's what they are doing"

    I am not sure how reliable is this and on what she has in her mind.. Just wanted to share the information. Don't give me RED for this.

    Do you seriously think a customer service person knows visa bulletins in advance?





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  • mmj
    04-19 03:51 PM
    Good job mmj.
    Pls provide your details and participate actively.
    Request you to donate as well if you have not already.

    We've already donated to IV in the past.



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  • saileshdude
    02-22 03:47 PM
    Hi,
    Can you please provide me with the information about the questions your friend faced? In my case the client side project was completed. I would appreciate your response.

    Sent you a PM. Could you reply? Thanks.





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  • rajuram
    01-05 12:15 AM
    So is it worth while to invest $500 in PMI certification?

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  • GC08
    09-01 06:55 PM
    I don't know why some people here are taking this work based immigration here as an all out war. As it is, working and staying in the US or any other country for that matter by foreigners is a priviledge, not a right. No one forced us to come here, we came here on our own free will.

    Regarding the description of discrimination of job based on country, that's rather ridiculous. There is no discrimination when one has the right to work and live in the country, that doesn't mean that anyone from any country can just come here and work with or without authorization and say it's discrimination. How about the many Indian companies who hire only Indians? Aren't they practising discrimination and fraud? They don't even bother to try to find qualified people in the country, rather they just issue H1Bs right way to Indian nationals only by just declaring a bogus "can't find qualified people in the country"

    If we want good things to happen to us, we should be fair and not misuse and violate the laws of the country. We all have a choice, we can either stay here and be honest and follow the laws and rules of the country, or if we don't like the way things are here we can just go back home.

    Sorry to be so honest, but I am tired of every other person cribbing about being victims. Looks like everyone wants to be a victim of something, it's time we take personal responsibility. If we don't like it here in the US, we have the choice to go back home. No one is forcing us to stay here.

    Thanks.

    Seriously I agree with you 90%. We should follow the rules and there are definitely companies and persons abusing the system. And these type of persons sometimes themselves were once immigrants waiting for green cards.

    The 10% that I do not agree with is associated with the reality of working in a country for so long (6 or 7 years) but still not getting the green cards.

    You are right that nobody force you to come here. But you decison to come here is based on certain assumptions (such as getting a green card within a reasonable timeframe and in an orderly way). But because of the chaos of the whole green card thing right now, you may not be able to get your green cards within a reasonable timeframe that you had planned, not because you screwed up (say changing the employer or making a huge mistake in your work). Rather it was either your employer or those government agencies screwed you up. I think it is really the chaotic situation, where honest, hard-working people who patienly wait in line are not getting what they deserve, that make people mad.
    Everyone probably can think of many examples of such "unfairness". Truth is that the situation has come to a boiling point that people can hardly stand any more, esp. when the July VB fiasco happened.

    To go one step further on your point, the whole world should have a better understanding and expectation of employment-based immigration to America. When the fact is out, it is really up to the indivdual to make an informed decision without complainting.





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  • tiinap
    04-09 01:12 PM
    "Even horse-betting has some amount of skill level (of the horse) and knowledge involved when u place a bet...and to think about it....When I used to be in India, I was told why India is not improving is because meritocracy takes a back seat everywhere while in US people are rewarded based on merits. I now realize with the backlog and the H1B that things are worse out here."

    You're absolutely right. Ever since last year's H1-b lottery, I look at this country in a new light. I no longer see this U.S. as the world's greatest country, I suspect this is a civilization in decline. If I were to make a bet where this country will be in 50 years, I would bet it would lose it's position as a superpower and the most successful economy.

    This H-1b and GC mess to me is an indicator of how things are run in this country. With all these major problems: immigration, healthcare -- there's just an attempt to sweep problems quietly under the rug or apply band-aid fixes such as a lottery.

    Thousands of advanced degree holders are being kicked out of the country and a million people are stuck in a GC mess -- no one cares, it's no-one's business. The human being is like a tiny and replacable cog in the system.

    Of maybe ~500 highly influential people in Washington DC (congressmen + senators + president + DHS high officials) maybe 3-4 people are expressing outrage at the EB GC and H1B mess. Zoe Lofgren is one, maybe a few others. The rest think the system is just fine.

    Barack Obama spoke in the senate last July and said that the employment-based immigration system is working so well, we shouldn't make any changes!

    Sorry, seeing this week's H1B brings out the pessimist in me. Maybe there's hope for legal immigrants in the future, but only if we keep fighting.



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  • logiclife
    12-28 04:50 PM
    Very good point logiclife. what happens in this following scenario when 140 is approved and when 140 is pending.

    Person X has completed 180 days after 485 filing, used is 6 yrs of H1 and now he got a 3 yrs of H1B from the same employer. If this person uses AC21 & EAD and joins another company and after 1 yr his 485 is rejected for wrong reasons, will this person be out of status(since used EAD) or will be in status since his H1b is still valid with the old employer (Assumed the employer has not revoked). Will it be safe to come back to the same employer.

    Thanks
    Sree

    PLEASE SPEAK WITH YOUR ATTORNEY TO EXPLORE YOUR OPTIONS. Every case is unique and whatever is here on forums may not apply to everyone. I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advise.

    I dont think that after using H1 for 6 years, you can switch to H1 status from EAD status once 485 is rejected. Now, if you have used less than 6 years of H1, and then used AC21 portability, used EAD, abandoned H1 status and continued on EAD status and if the 485 gets rejected, there may be a way to reclaim the remaining unused portion of H1. It may involve going out of country and coming back in. Check with a lawyer, I dont know much and haven seen any case where someone who was on EAD status could go back to H1 status. Usually H1 to EAD is a one-way street, especially if you have already used up the 6 years of H1 stay in country.





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  • Soul
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  • enggr
    03-17 03:52 AM
    My dear friends,
    I am so sad to tell the fact my I-140 got denied after the RFE response. In response to the RFE in September my lawyer responded to the RFE in November and the result came early this month (march 2008).
    In the RFE response in last November my lawyer told USCIS that the category was marked wrong as EB2 where the case should be actually under EB3.
    USCIS denied the application saying that application cannot be approved under EB2 and request for EB3 cannot be entertained at this point.

    The following are the words from USCIS denial notice.



    "The petitioner indicated that it had made an error in marking the petition form and that the petition should be considered one requesting the beneficiary's classification under a different section of law. However, since the petition was filed for second-preference classification and was initially adjudicated on that basis, USCIS will not at this stage consider it for some other classification.
    In accordance with a USCIS announcement dated on May 23, 2007, the petitioner may elect to file a new petition on the beneficiary's behalf requesting a different visa classification but supported by the instant labor certification.(A motion making this request would be denied.) If the petitioner elects to persue this option, it should include a cover letter which explains the request, include a copy of this denial notice, and clearly report that the original labor certification is with LIN XXXXXXXXXX housed in AXXXXXXXXX. "

    Also mine and my wife's I-485 got denied on the same day. In the denial notice of I-485 USCIS has mentioned that "The regulation does not provide for an appeal to this decision."

    We are planning to file a new labor certification by end of this month as the current one is 99% a gone case

    As you all know I was trying to save this application to save my wife's EAD.

    Please help me with one of the options below.

    Regarding my rejected I-140 I have two choices as per USCIS and my lawyer. Either of them should be filed 33 days from first week of march. Doing both of the below options at the same time will result in automatic rejection of both

    1) Appealing the decision
    Pros: My wife gets a chance to win her EAD back which is a big win for us
    Cons: USCIS has indicated in the rejection notice that they are rejecting the I-140 because it does not qualify for EB2. they added that our request for converting it into EB3 cannot be entertained at this moment of time. So chances of winning the appeal is small compared to filing new I-140 as per my lawyer

    2) Applying new EB3 I-140
    Pros: Chances of getting an approval under this new EB3 I-140 is more compared to appealing the old EB2 application (the old application also includes and the request to convert EB2 into EB3)
    Cons: Definite loss of my wife's EAD. Also since the labor is on Aug 2006 they have a common expiration date of Jan 2008. All labors from June 2007 (somewhere around that time) expire 6 months of the approval date and I-140 within that 6 months only will be considered for processing. Since we have passed the Jan 2008 period my lawyer is saying the new I-140 can also get rejected. the only argument we can place is, the processing time taken/length of old I-140 processing and the suggestion given on old I-140 denial notice dated march 1st week.

    I am wondering whether we can do an MTR (Motion to re-open on the old application). This option is not mentioned by USCIS or lawyer. I am wondering whether this option will eliminate the appeal/new I-140 application within 33 days previlege

    . My answer to my attorney regarding the next course of action depends on your advice(s) very much.

    Thanks in advance and I really appreciate who posted replies to my questions earlier.

    Enggr:

    Labor approved 2006 Aug EB2
    I-140 applied 2006 Nov EB2
    I-140 RFE 2007 Sep
    RFE response 2007 Nov
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  • nrk
    10-30 09:05 PM
    It is an unnecessary hassle for me, I shouldn't have opened the SR in the first instance


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  • AllVNeedGcPc
    05-30 08:13 PM
    Also say **NAY** to this one which introduces bill to deny birth right of citizenship:

    http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1868/show

    We are waiting in line for GC for long and never know when can be considered as illegals, as there is a very thin line between being legal and illegal here. We do not want our kids to suffer because of this bill.

    Kam se kam ek newborn se to uska birth-right nahin cheen na chahiye...





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  • go_guy123
    11-03 10:49 AM
    WOW...

    In a matter of minutes my indicator has gone to 3 reds. Am I missing something... ?!!!

    Dont worry too much about the reds. Even I used to have a couple of greens.
    But when I saw many people complaining about why IV is not pursuing piecemeal,
    I explained them about the Hispanic caucus and CIR.....I started getting reds
    because of that.

    People often give red even for rational and logical postings here if the information is uncomfortable.



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  • sodh
    12-14 05:08 AM
    How about this ,my labor was offered to an employee,who was leaving the company, even when I was working for the company,until I threatened the employer that I will report this matter to the DOL.





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  • aroranuj
    04-19 12:36 PM
    Hello All,

    Thanks for your thoughts & advise. It helped me in my conversation with my company's attorney. I would first like to clear my educational background. I have 10 + 2( HSC/ 12th Grade) + 1 (1st year of Bachelors of Commerce) + 3 year Diploma in my field. That being said this is what she has advised/recommended.

    She states that she is fairly confident that we can argue successfully the denial. She has said that she will file an MTR/Appeal & at the same time file a new I-140 too. She says she thinks there is a 50% chance that the MTR would be successful, if not she said it will go for appeal & take about a year. The advantage she said of filing a new I-140 at the same time is that she can make an airtight case with the cover letter covering the points for the reason for the denial of this I140 & the decision on the new I-140 would be fairly quick if the appeal is denied as it was filed witht eh appeal for the old one. The only disadvantage with a new I-140 would be that we cant file for 485 till there is an open visa, which means no EAD/AP for myself & my wife.

    Can members with knowledge of these kind of scenarios shed some of their thoughts?

    Thanks.



    Hello All,

    I have just received a copy of the denial notice that USCIS sent to the attorney for my I-140. This is what the notice states is the reason for the denial. Can someone please advise me what my chances are for an appeal to be approved? My lawyer is noncommittal at this this time. My I140 was filed under the EB3 Category. My 6th year of H1B expires in June.

    "A Bachelor's degree is generallt found to require 4 years of education. Therefore, the beneficiary's 3 year diploma is not equivalent to a 4 year bachelors degree which is the minimum educational requirement to be classified as a professional on this labor certificate.

    Under part H Number 4 of the Labor Certificate, the petitoner has checked the box "Other" under education. Under part 4-A the petitioner stated: 'Will accept academic studies evaluated as equivalent of US Bachelors'. The evaluation submitted indiactes that the beneficiary has the foreign equivalent of a US Bachelor of Science.

    However this statement cannot infer that the petitioner will accept anything less than the minimum education requirements for a professional, i.e Bachelors degree. The evidence indicates that the beneficiary does not have a bachelors degree or foreign equivalent degree. Therefore, the beneficiary does not meet the minimum requirements of the ETA-9089"

    Please note that I have a 3 year diploma & 1 year towards Bachelors in business & this case was files at the Texas Center. Any insights from knowledgeable members will be helpful.





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  • GCaspirations
    10-01 09:18 PM
    NSC probably sent applications to CSC for data entry, I am a july 2 filer, my EAD(I131)/AP(I765) and all receipt notices were sent to me by CSC all are WAC### numbers which means its from CSC, then they sent just the AOS (I485) back to NSC saying they do not have Jurisdiction on the AOS application (Logic behind this is - because my I140 was approved by NSC, I have a LIN### on I140 application).

    This transfers happens in the 4 centers all the time no need to worry, there is delay associated though... :(

    Anywayz all said and done... I have not received my FP notice as yet...My Receipt Notice date : Aug23

    I filed at Nebraska for 485, my 140 is approved by --I donot know but the receipt notice number starts with SRC, i think texas.
    My application transferred from NSC to CSC and back to NSC.
    Should I expect my application be transferred now to TSC as my I140 was approved there?
    The delay is the pain..... and it continues... NO FP yet.





    aknynd
    12-28 11:28 AM
    Hi,

    I-140 approved - June 2006
    I-485 Filed in July 2007
    AP- Approved Oct 2007
    FP - Done in Oct 2007
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    BharatPremi
    05-05 04:25 PM
    Gurus,

    Since EB2-India is current, I am exploring the possibility of interfiling.

    Goal: Interfile in such a way that my new application under EB2 (New case
    category) get attached with old case (EB3) priority date (07/2003) and
    thus enable me to take advantage of EB2 current PD as declared in
    April 2008 bulletin.
    GC Application/s history:
    -----------------------
    OLD APPLICATION

    Employer: xyz
    Category: EB3-RIR Conversion-India
    Priority Date: 07/2003
    Labor approved
    I-140 approved
    I-140 approval date: 06/2007
    AP and EAD approved
    485 receipt date: 07/1*/2007

    NEW APPLICATION

    Employer: ZAB
    Category: EB2-India
    Priority Date: 06/2006
    PERM LABOR approved
    I-140 approved
    I-140 approval date:08/2006
    No AP/EAD/485 applied under this application

    Notes: (1) Currently working for company CDE on EAD.
    (2) "A" number on both I-140 are similar and different from "A" number
    on 485 file.
    (3) Occupation codes for both category are "Close" and matches the
    job profile with current employment on EAD

    Question: Is my goal achievable? If yes, then what to do and how to
    proceed?

    Thanks in advance for any help to sort this out.

    - BharatPremi

    Update: My lawyer just got back to me on this. Since I wanted the interfiling in such a way that I can maintain old PD ( July 2003 based - EB3 filing - 485 filed under this) with new application category EB2 (new application - June 2006 PD), lawyer told me that it is not possible. Once I interfile my new application, end effect will be having my 485 based on EB2- with new priority date (June 2006). So at this moment I have 2 choices...

    1) Wait out till July 2003 under EB3-India become current
    2) If EB3-India is not moving at all or July 2003 does not become current for EB3 but meanwhile if EB2-India cutoff date crosses June 2006 then file interfiling.



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