vinzak
06-16 12:10 PM
I have often heard about visa recapture in these forums, and always that there were lost visa numbers. I came across a DHS site yesterday with statstics on GCs issued, and must admit I am a bit confused about what visa recapture means. The site is DHS | Yearbook of Immigration Statistics: 2009 (http://www.dhs.gov/files/statistics/publications/LPR09.shtm) . Looking at table 6 (Persons Obtaining Legal Permanent Resident Status by Type and Major Class of Admission: Fiscal Years 2000 to 2009), we get the following data on EB and FB issuances.
Year 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Total
FB 235,092 231,699 186,880 158,796 214,355 212,970 222,229 194,900 227,761 211,859 2,096,541
EB 106,642 178,702 173,814 81,727 155,330 246,877 159,081 162,176 166,511 144,034 1,574,894
Total 341,734 410,401 360,694 240,523 369,685 459,847 381,310 357,076 394,272 355,893 3,671,435
if we we were to take deltas from the fb cap of 226k and eb cap of 140k, the scenario looks as follows, where a -ive number indicates over allocation.
Year 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Total
FB -9,092 -5,699 39,120 67,204 11,645 13,030 3,771 31,100 -1,761 14,141 163,459
EB 33,358 -38,702 -33,814 58,273 -15,330 -106,877 -19,081 -22,176 -26,511 -4,034 -174,894
Total 24,266 -44,401 5,306 125,477 -3,685 -93,847 -15,310 8,924 -28,272 10,107 -11,435
As we can see, cumulatively from 2000-09, 11,435 more visas have been given than actually permitted. Particularly in EB 174k excess visas were given.
I'm curious to know, what recapture means, when it seems visas have not been lost.
The only case for recapture is if we only count the years visas were under allocated, and ignore the years it was overallocated. The scenario would look as follows
Year 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Total
FB 0 0 39,120 67,204 11,645 13,030 3,771 31,100 0 14,141 180,011
EB 33,358 0 0 58,273 0 0 0 0 0 0 91,631
Total 33,358 0 39,120 125,477 11,645 13,030 3,771 31,100 0 14,141 271,642
So are we trying to recapture 271k visas from this calculation?
If the experts could shed some light on this, that would be great.
Year 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Total
FB 235,092 231,699 186,880 158,796 214,355 212,970 222,229 194,900 227,761 211,859 2,096,541
EB 106,642 178,702 173,814 81,727 155,330 246,877 159,081 162,176 166,511 144,034 1,574,894
Total 341,734 410,401 360,694 240,523 369,685 459,847 381,310 357,076 394,272 355,893 3,671,435
if we we were to take deltas from the fb cap of 226k and eb cap of 140k, the scenario looks as follows, where a -ive number indicates over allocation.
Year 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Total
FB -9,092 -5,699 39,120 67,204 11,645 13,030 3,771 31,100 -1,761 14,141 163,459
EB 33,358 -38,702 -33,814 58,273 -15,330 -106,877 -19,081 -22,176 -26,511 -4,034 -174,894
Total 24,266 -44,401 5,306 125,477 -3,685 -93,847 -15,310 8,924 -28,272 10,107 -11,435
As we can see, cumulatively from 2000-09, 11,435 more visas have been given than actually permitted. Particularly in EB 174k excess visas were given.
I'm curious to know, what recapture means, when it seems visas have not been lost.
The only case for recapture is if we only count the years visas were under allocated, and ignore the years it was overallocated. The scenario would look as follows
Year 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Total
FB 0 0 39,120 67,204 11,645 13,030 3,771 31,100 0 14,141 180,011
EB 33,358 0 0 58,273 0 0 0 0 0 0 91,631
Total 33,358 0 39,120 125,477 11,645 13,030 3,771 31,100 0 14,141 271,642
So are we trying to recapture 271k visas from this calculation?
If the experts could shed some light on this, that would be great.
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jayleno
09-23 12:32 PM
Soft LUD for me. It was so soft that it didnt even update the date.
New term: Very Soft LUD. No visible change to the naked eye, but something is cooking behind the scenes regarding your case
New term: Very Soft LUD. No visible change to the naked eye, but something is cooking behind the scenes regarding your case
rani77
09-18 11:59 AM
My case is little bit different.
EAD was approved on August 11th and I got the card in mail couple of days after I received the email. But, I haven't received the approval notice for my EAD yet. The status on the EAD shows that the approval notice was sent on August 13th. I had no issues with AP though.
Application Type: I765, APPLICATION FOR EMPLOYMENT AUTHORIZATION
Current Status: Approval notice sent.
On August 13, 2008, we mailed you a notice that we have approved this I765 APPLICATION FOR EMPLOYMENT AUTHORIZATION.
You dont get any approval notice except the card with white card folder. So you are good ,dont expect any Form 767 approval notice.
EAD was approved on August 11th and I got the card in mail couple of days after I received the email. But, I haven't received the approval notice for my EAD yet. The status on the EAD shows that the approval notice was sent on August 13th. I had no issues with AP though.
Application Type: I765, APPLICATION FOR EMPLOYMENT AUTHORIZATION
Current Status: Approval notice sent.
On August 13, 2008, we mailed you a notice that we have approved this I765 APPLICATION FOR EMPLOYMENT AUTHORIZATION.
You dont get any approval notice except the card with white card folder. So you are good ,dont expect any Form 767 approval notice.
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kaisersose
07-02 03:26 PM
Guys,
I want to sue them for 3 things -
1) Touching I-140 cases way outside processing times (eg. 2008 when the date is July, 2007)
2) Approving 2008 cases before 2007, ie., no FIFO
3) Discrimination against EB3 cases during I-140 stage. I-140 case processing should be independent of Eb category, I have not read any rule where it should be.
You cannot sue them for any of the above.
1) Most people do not understand the processing date concept. If the date says July 2007, then it is a guideline saying most of the cases before that date have already been processed. It does not mean that they will *not* process cases later than that date.
2) FIFO? If they had not dropped Eb3 cases and focussed on EB2 140s, then a lot of approvable 485s would not have been approved this year, resulting in unused visa numbers. So they made that choice. It is a temporary situation due to the huge backlog of 2007.
3) See (2)
I want to sue them for 3 things -
1) Touching I-140 cases way outside processing times (eg. 2008 when the date is July, 2007)
2) Approving 2008 cases before 2007, ie., no FIFO
3) Discrimination against EB3 cases during I-140 stage. I-140 case processing should be independent of Eb category, I have not read any rule where it should be.
You cannot sue them for any of the above.
1) Most people do not understand the processing date concept. If the date says July 2007, then it is a guideline saying most of the cases before that date have already been processed. It does not mean that they will *not* process cases later than that date.
2) FIFO? If they had not dropped Eb3 cases and focussed on EB2 140s, then a lot of approvable 485s would not have been approved this year, resulting in unused visa numbers. So they made that choice. It is a temporary situation due to the huge backlog of 2007.
3) See (2)
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ramboom1
03-28 09:20 AM
Fellow IV members,
How come the "Hard Limit" is not talked about / mentioned in any of the big websites? Shusterman.com / Aila.org et all. Is it possible to get an immigration attorney to explain this crucial issue of "Hard Limit" to IV core team ?
How come the "Hard Limit" is not talked about / mentioned in any of the big websites? Shusterman.com / Aila.org et all. Is it possible to get an immigration attorney to explain this crucial issue of "Hard Limit" to IV core team ?
gc4sk
08-14 03:44 PM
I got 20 years $750,000 term life insurance for $37.5/month by transamerica. I am on H-1B and I used accuquote.com
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inderman
10-06 03:57 PM
How and when are we supposed to contact Ombudsman for help?
Are we supposed to wait first for some stipulated time or we can contact when our PD is current?
Thanks
Are we supposed to wait first for some stipulated time or we can contact when our PD is current?
Thanks
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logiclife
05-30 03:04 PM
As of May 30, 2006, our total contributions stand at $ 137,616.10.
IV team would like to thank all the contributors who have shown a great deal of passion and commitment to this cause and helped us achieve the goal of reaching 130K by Memorial Day.
We are extremely pleased with the enthusiasm of our membership. Almost 30% of our members have contributed funds at some point.
Our contributions not only help us fund the public advocacy and professional help we receive from Quinn-Gillespie, it also represents the strength and commitment of the people who constitute this organization. The amount of funds we get is also a measure of the amount of frustration faced by nearly half a million legal high-skills immigrants who are victims of a broken system. It is also a measure of the strength and resolve of people who want to stand up to an unfair system and fight it.
We thank all our contributors for showing a firm resolve and participating in this effort.
"Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any one thing."
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IV team would like to thank all the contributors who have shown a great deal of passion and commitment to this cause and helped us achieve the goal of reaching 130K by Memorial Day.
We are extremely pleased with the enthusiasm of our membership. Almost 30% of our members have contributed funds at some point.
Our contributions not only help us fund the public advocacy and professional help we receive from Quinn-Gillespie, it also represents the strength and commitment of the people who constitute this organization. The amount of funds we get is also a measure of the amount of frustration faced by nearly half a million legal high-skills immigrants who are victims of a broken system. It is also a measure of the strength and resolve of people who want to stand up to an unfair system and fight it.
We thank all our contributors for showing a firm resolve and participating in this effort.
"Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any one thing."
Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)
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abdulazeez77
08-11 08:11 AM
Hello All,
I have my H1B stamp and my wife has a H4 stamp from my old employer valid until December 2007. I transferred my employer in Jan 2007 and have a new I-797 valid until 2009. My wife now wants to travel outside the country and come back in a month (September 2007). Can she travel with her current stamping? What documents does she needs at the port of entry when she comes back (my I-797?). Would appreciate very much if someone can help. This is fairly urgent since she has to travel next week.
Regards,
Azeez
I have my H1B stamp and my wife has a H4 stamp from my old employer valid until December 2007. I transferred my employer in Jan 2007 and have a new I-797 valid until 2009. My wife now wants to travel outside the country and come back in a month (September 2007). Can she travel with her current stamping? What documents does she needs at the port of entry when she comes back (my I-797?). Would appreciate very much if someone can help. This is fairly urgent since she has to travel next week.
Regards,
Azeez
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CaveMan232
10-22 12:28 AM
The future appears bleak and depressing considering the recent FOIA numbers which put EB3 GC wait times at approximately 8-10 years. Is there no hope at all? :(
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gcnirvana
06-25 07:51 PM
Employer pays everything except for my EAD/AP as my H1 is valid till 2010. And fortunately, USCIS surgeon billed my medical exams to my insurance. Not sure if it'll come back and bite me but as of now I didn't pay a dime :)
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snathan
08-04 01:09 PM
He can use AP to renter. USCIS would not have approved to give EAD if USCIS determined he was out of status in the first place.
NOT True.. they will give and come after you just to deny/revoke it.
NOT True.. they will give and come after you just to deny/revoke it.
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whattodo21
10-25 09:22 AM
how do you get a copy of the approved i-140 if the employer is not willing to give it?
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pooja_34
10-17 09:33 PM
We never had to tell the IO to do anything. They knew what to do.
But if some IO tries to keep a copy of the original after the initial time - I would tell them that it is the only original that you have left.
But we never had that problem to deal with.
Thanks do I need to specifically tell the immigration officer at port of entry to make a copy?
pooja_34
Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 14
The only time they keep an original is the first time. After that they never keep the original but return it to you when you return.
My wife and I only had 2 AP originals when we applied last year and made 2 trips outside the US. So relax and dont worry. You're fine.
But if some IO tries to keep a copy of the original after the initial time - I would tell them that it is the only original that you have left.
But we never had that problem to deal with.
Thanks do I need to specifically tell the immigration officer at port of entry to make a copy?
pooja_34
Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 14
The only time they keep an original is the first time. After that they never keep the original but return it to you when you return.
My wife and I only had 2 AP originals when we applied last year and made 2 trips outside the US. So relax and dont worry. You're fine.
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enthu999
07-17 10:15 AM
I am NOT going for another TN renewal which might pose a problem once my AOS is filed next time. I will be entering in H1 status.
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Britsabroad
December 3rd, 2008, 08:00 PM
Ed - Dang. Wish I hadnt chickened out! I could have handled what you went through... Ordred thru amazon (d300 and 24-70 2.8) It will be interesting to compare notes over time...
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go_guy123
03-01 04:23 PM
Friends,
I have Canada PR since October 2006. In October this year I will complete 3 years since landing in Canada. The rule to maintain PR is that one should live in Canada for at least 2 years in a 5 year period. Since I have not lived in Canada more that a couple of weeks since landing, will I be allowed to move to Canada after completing 3 years outside Canada or will I be sent back from the border? Has anyone moved to Canada after living outside for more than 3 years since landing? Please advise.
Thanks.
At the end of expiry of the PR card that you get, you will need to renew it. At that time you need to show that you stayed for 2 years in Canada and when you cant show you lose the
PR and cannot renew the PR card.
I have Canada PR since October 2006. In October this year I will complete 3 years since landing in Canada. The rule to maintain PR is that one should live in Canada for at least 2 years in a 5 year period. Since I have not lived in Canada more that a couple of weeks since landing, will I be allowed to move to Canada after completing 3 years outside Canada or will I be sent back from the border? Has anyone moved to Canada after living outside for more than 3 years since landing? Please advise.
Thanks.
At the end of expiry of the PR card that you get, you will need to renew it. At that time you need to show that you stayed for 2 years in Canada and when you cant show you lose the
PR and cannot renew the PR card.
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lecter
March 2nd, 2004, 07:59 PM
I've noticed a massive upswing in comments and photo discussions..
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keep 'em coming.....
(I have done four weeks quota to stay ahead of the game)
lol
;)
:P
Rob
makes me warm and fuzzy all over....
keep 'em coming.....
(I have done four weeks quota to stay ahead of the game)
lol
;)
:P
Rob
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hopelessGC
11-10 01:26 PM
I'd like to know the answer to this one as well. There are people who have invoked AC-21 and would like to know how they went abou this.
funny
07-26 02:09 PM
I agree.
Please change the title, Its going to scare hell out of a lot of people. It centainly did the trick for me.
Please change the title, Its going to scare hell out of a lot of people. It centainly did the trick for me.
kprgroup
02-01 11:30 AM
Replied RFE with copy of 485 receipt and copy MTR approval and got 3 years H1 extension until 2013.
Thanks Everyone
KPR
Thanks Everyone
KPR
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